FLASH Producer Andrew Kreisberg Talks Big Twist, Time Travel, and Reverse Flash

FLASH Producer Andrew Kreisberg Talks Big Twist, Time Travel, and Reverse Flash

FLASH Producer Andrew Kreisberg Talks Big Twist, Time Travel, and Reverse Flash

With ‘The Flash’ delivering its most shocking episode yet, producer Andrew Kreisberg talks what’s next for the show. SPOILERS AHEAD for last night’s episode!


There you have it folks! We can finally quash the silly theories of Harrison Wells being a future Barry Allen; Eobard Thawne has made his way on to ‘The Flash’. Not only that, he murdered a tearful Cisco, who had spent the episode discovering Wells’ Thawne’s secret. And to top it all off, Barry has found himself stranded a few days in the past after running so fast, he travelled back in time! Variety sat down with producer Andrew KreisbergTom Cavanagh (Harrison Wells/Reverse Flash) and Candice Patton (Iris West) to discuss what’s next!

On how Barry’s first trip through time affects the show going forward: The ramifications of this episode are the fun of Episode 16, and seeing exactly what happened in 15, how much of it still happens and how much of it might possibly change,” Kreisberg teased. “It’s sort of the advantage of having a show that dabbles in time travel; this episode allowed us to give people a tease and a taste and make some big reveals, because, as always, we try to not keep every secret all the time. We try to dole some stuff out and start giving the audience some of the answers that I think they’ve been craving, because there are still plenty of things that have been unsaid — what Wells really wants for Barry ultimately and how things are going to play out — but this episode just felt like an amazing opportunity to do some crazy stuff.

Like Wells said in a previous episode, there are different versions of time travel: there’s the fixed loop and there’s the version where time is more plastic and mutable and I think one of the fun things is discovering what’s a fixed point in time and what can’t be changed — what things always to happen and what things are changeable and mutable. It’s a mixture of both. None of us knows how time travel really works, but we’ve come up with what we feel are our rules and we try to stick by them. A lot of what we’re doing now is a lot of stuff that was set up in the pilot.”

On Cisco’s death at Thawne’s hands: “There’s a genuine affection between them, like when we’re watching the movie. When Thawne is in the current time, he’s wholly invested and he truly cares about Cisco and is truly impressed with him… he sees some of him[self] in Cisco and there’s a protégé-mentor relationship and there’s a genuine relationship. When he says that line, ‘you’ve shown me what it’s like to have a son,’ he’s not saying that idly, he means it. At the same time, the guy’s gotta get home.”

Kreisberg reasoned, “If one of us was suddenly thrown back many centuries into the past and it took you 15 years to get home, you wouldn’t be sitting there by yourself; you’d meet people, you’d make friends. Even if, intellectually, you were understanding that all these people have been long dead and ‘it doesn’t really matter to me where I come from, every one of them could die and my home is still where it is,’ no man is an island … Eobard Thawne himself is not an evil man. He has a reason for doing what he’s doing and he has an agenda and he thinks of himself as the hero. Bad people can love other people; bad people are capable of love, bad people are capable of incredible amounts of kindness and generosity. There’s nothing he said to Cisco in that scene that isn’t the truth. He’s sorry he found out, he’s sorry it has to happen, but it does have to happen, and there’s a scene in episode 16 which kind of mirrors this scene that I think really speaks to that.”

On the Reverse Flash and his motivations:  “He wants to get home. He wanted to kill Barry and he thought it was going to be a neat and easy thing, and instead he’s found himself trapped here for the last 15 years and all he wants to do is get back… Every day in this time is an assault on him… and if he can kill Barry in the process, then he’s two for two.”

Cavanagh added that “[Wells/Thawne is] furthering his agenda but he’s also furthering Barry’s agenda, and those two agendas are simpatico and so as he’s working with them, he is appreciative. All that stuff is not a mustache-twirling, villainous starting point, it’s actually genuine. We’re trying to accomplish something, and for the first season, we’re accomplishing it together, which makes it a little more heartbreaking when the next phase of the plan starts to happen. And I think that’s just good writing because if he was just a dick the whole time, when he kills Cisco it’d be like, ‘I just hate him.’ But now we’ve established that they’re kind of a group and a team, to watch that fracture, I find it all the more compelling.”

What’s next for Barry? Any thoughts or theories on the future of the Flash? Sound off in the comments! For more from Kreisberg, check out the full interview at the link below!

Source: Variety

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